It’s why when we meet Harbour at New York Comic Con, where he’s promoting his upcoming action-comedy Violent Night (think The Santa Clause meets Die Hard), we feel compelled to say that one of our favorite moments in Stranger Things 4 was Hop having a happy moment with El at the end. “One of the few,” Harbour says with a wry chuckle. And it’s true, Hopper is having a real rough time as of late. But the end is coming. Netflix and showrunners Matt Duffer and Ross Duffer have long confirmed Stranger Things 5 will be the end of the line, and with it characters like Hop, El, Joyce, and the whole Hawkins crew will meet their final destinies. So we got to wondering: What ending would make Jim Hopper happiest after everything he’s been through? That said, what Hopper wants and what the Duffer Brothers want for him could be potentially miles apart. The creators did send Hop to Russia, after all. And when it comes to getting into specifics about what will actually occur in Stranger Things 5, Harbour is unsurprisingly taciturn. However, he does suggest that fans will be satisfied with how Stranger Things draws its final curtain (perhaps unlike certain other genre shows). “[The Duffers are] writing,” Harbour says. “We’ll start shooting next year, and we’ll try to get it to you as soon as possible. I sort of know general arcs and themes, and such. And as you’ve seen with each successive season, from 1, 2, 3, to 4, which was this big explosion, 5 is going to be no less impressive and spectacular. I think we’ll push it all a step forward because of your relationship with these characters. And it’ll be the final one. So I have a feeling that they’ll stick the landing very well, and everyone will be very happy.” Stranger Things 5 is coming, eventually. Meanwhile Violent Night will be here just in time for the holidays, with the movie opening only in theaters on Dec. 2, 2022. We’ll have our full interview about that Yuletide treat closer to release.